LEO DONOFRIO COMMENTS ON JUDAH BENJAMIN ARTICLE CONCERNING NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND THE COMMON LAW
On November 28, 2008, Judah Benjamin published an article at the Texas Darlin blog which discussed my case and the natural born citizen issue. While I enjoyed reading this article, and I agree with the conclusion – that Obama is not eligible – I disagree with the basis upon which that conclusion was made.
Specifically, I disagree that the common law is controlling on the issue of “natural born citizen”. It is “national law” which is controlling. I don’t know if Mr. Benjamin is a lawyer, but his reading, explanation and understanding of the natural born citizen issue is not exactly on point.
I do agree with Benjamin’s conclusion, that Obama is not a natural born citizen, but for the wrong reasons.
And I did enjoy Judah’s article above. He has obviously done much research. But there is a glaring mistake in his logic where he fails to point out the necessary concept in common law definition of “natural born subject”.
There are two mistakes in his article which need to be addressed.
FIRST MISTAKE: Failure to state cited law was repealed.
Judah mentions the 1790 naturalization act as follows:
“In the United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) it says:
‘the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens’.”
Unfortunately, Benjamin fails to mention, as do many others, that this act was specifically repealed in 1795 and replaced with the same exact clause as written above EXCEPT the words “natural born” have been deleted leaving only the word “citizens”.
See Section 3 Naturalization Act of 1795
This leads to the second point of error.
SECOND MISTAKE: Failure to properly analyze common law.
Congress having repealed the”natural born provision” leads to the core problem in Mr. Benjamin’s analysis. Naturalization only concerns people who were, “at birth” not US citizens.
People born in other countries as citizens of foreign powers, but who immigrate to the USA are naturalized. Naturalization has nothing to do with citizens like McCain who are born abroad to American citizens and are US Citizens by statute “at birth”.
Naturalization also could not cover Obama who was (we assume) born on United States soil (Hawaii).
But at the common law, naturalized citizens WERE considered to be “NATURAL BORN SUBJECTS”. At the common law, the act of naturalization returns them to birth and they are effectively reborn to the allegiance of the King.
The best case which explains this concept is “United States vs. Rhodes” which Mr. Benjamin does quote but fails to mention the case citation, which is always important because it provides the reader the chance to see the context of the quote discussed. And this is very important. Here is what Benjamin quoted from Justice Swayne’s eloquent opinion:
“Justice Noah Haynes Swayne was around when they wrote the XIVth Amendment and the Equal Rights Act of 1866 and in 1866 he said this:
‘All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born Subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this country…since as before the Revolution.’ “
And this appears to back Mr. Benjamin’s core thesis, that Obama is not a natural born citizen under the common law definition thereof, which may be true, but that in itself is NOT the main reason Obama isn’t eligible. The common law is not our national law. Our national law is the Constitution. We do not follow the common law, we follow the Constitution.
And this is important to note because the common law, which may also bear out that Obama isn’t eligible, at the same time provides Obama with his best argument that he is eligible. The reason for this lies on that part of Justice Swayne’s opinion which Mr. Benjamin did not quote. Here is Justice Swayne’s relevant quote:
“An alien naturalized is “to all intents and purposes a natural born subject.” Co. Litt. 129. “Naturalization takes effect from birth; denization from the date of the patent.” Vin. Abr. tit. “Alien,” D. …The power is applicable only to those of foreign birth. Alienage is an indispensable element in the process. To make one of domestic birth a citizen is not naturalization, and cannot be brought within the exercise of that power. There is a universal agreement of opinion upon this subject. [**26] Scott v. Sanford, 19 How. [60 U.S.] 578; 2 Story, Const. 44.
United States v. Rhodes, 27 F. Cas. 785, at 790 (1866)
The status of the candidate “at birth” is relevant to Article 2, Section 1. For somebody to be a “natural born citizen” and therefore eligible to be President, they must have the status “at birth”.
If the common law were applied in the USA, then all naturalized citizens would be eligible to be President since the common law understanding was that, as quoted by Swayne, “Naturalization takes effect from birth”. If we followed that today, then all naturalized citizens would be returned to birth to be reborn and could therefore claim “natural born citizen” status.
Mr. Benjamin correctly points out that naturalized citizens like Arnold Schwarzenegger can NOT be President since they are naturalized and the US doesn’t recognize those persons as “natural born citizens”.
But Mr. Benjamin also argues that this idea comes from the common law and he is wrong about that. The common law holds that Arnold Schwarzenegger, having been naturalized, would have been a “natural born subject”. And if we then apply the common law concept and understanding of “natural born subject” to “natural born citizen” then Arnold Schwarzenegger would be eligible to be President since, at common law, his birth status could change upon naturalization.
But Arnold Schwarzenegger is not eligible to be President because the United States doesn’t follow common law. The United States follows national law, and our national law is the CONSTITUTION.
Obama was not naturalized, and I do not make the argument above to say that naturalization laws apply to Obama – although they might if he were not born in Hawaii- but let’s assume he was. I make the argument above to show that the United States is not following common law and the Constitution will not be interpreted as if it were controlled by common law. There is enough evidence in our history and other laws to bear this out.
The first of which is precedent. In our history as a nation, every President we have ever had was born in the United States to parents who were both US Citizens.
And it’s very important, especially in light of Justice Scalia’s very recent comments to the Federalist Society of November 22, 2008 wherein he said that the common law is dead and does not control in the USA:
“The common law is gone. The federal courts never applied the common law and even in the state courts it’s codified now.”
You might want to hear Justice Scalia’s entire presentation:
http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubid.1193/pub_detail.asp
Furthermore, it is very clear that the those who wrote the 14th Amendment believed that only those so qualified as all previous Presidents were eligible to be President under Article 2, section 1, Clause 5. This was made clear by Madison’s article:
“Why U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark Can Never Be Considered Settled Birthright Law” Dec 10, 2006
“John A. Bingham, chief architect of the 14th Amendments first section, considered the proposed national law on citizenship as “simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…” If this law was simply to reaffirm the common law doctrine then the condition of the parents would be totally irrelevant.”
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, must also be read in light of the 14th Amendment which is just as much a part of the Constitution as any other part.
CONCLUSION
All in all, Mr. Benjamin has made a valiant attempt to provide a clear analysis of the natural born citizen topic. Please do not assume I am bashing him. I respect his passion and research, but it’s not entirely accurate. And considering what Scalia just said to the Federalist Society about the common law being gone (only three days after my case was scheduled for conference), it’s important to keep things in their proper historical perspective.
Leo C. Donofrio
December 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Hi Leo,
It’s nice that you made the move to wordpress. I wish you a happy, pleasant and LONG association with them! It is a pleasure to read your entries. They are very logical and clear. You are a fantastic teacher!
As for Google, I’ve read that they give their support to Obama and are behind him 100%. Perhaps that is the reason for their treatment of your blog.
December 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM
keep on keeping on leo, you’re doing great
December 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM
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December 1, 2008 at 7:02 PM
I you haven’t heard an in-person presentation by Justice Scalia, I’d highly recommend you watch this video. He is an insightful and humorous speaker that offers very good insights to many SCOTUS things.
He even outlines what the “Conference” meetings are like (from Rehnquist’s book) – quite interesting. His “living court” comments are quite good.
December 1, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Wow! Leo, you continue to amaze me. Thanks for everything you are doing.
December 1, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Hi Leo,Greetings from Australia. I have been following your story for some time, One thing no-one has touched on, Has there been one (or more) previous presidents that have not met the natural born qualification?
December 1, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Historians need to help here. Remember, Congress was given the authority to regulate naturalization. It was the time of the French Revolution. Napoleon would soon be Emperor of France. It was his Napoleonic Code that would make citizenship by “blood” or “descent” the law of all Europe (except Great Britain, although by 1860, Great Britain would begin to adopt “descent,” and did so fully by 1948)
In the U.S., Africans were slaves, persons held as property. Africans were American-born, but NOT citizens.
In 1866, the Civil Rights Act made new freemen “citizens,” not by “naturalization,” because they were not “foreigners,” but by appeal to the “natural-born” clause in Article II as the qualification to be President of the United States. It was the discussion of citizenship in United States v. Rhodes, 27 F. Cas. 785, at 790 (1866) that confirmed the logic of this decision: “If born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, then a citizen.”
Justice Rehnquist (before he became Chief Justice) pointed out that there were 11 instances in the Constitution — “a document noted for its brevity” — that address the “citizen-alien” distinction.
Clearly, this matter was vitally important to the Framers, and to every Court and Congress since. It will be important in this case, too.
December 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Leo, you are one smart man. You are going to win this case and America will be better served because of it. You are a true patriot sir, just be careful as there are a lot of nasties out here. I cannot wait for friday the 5th. Peace, and God Bless you Leo.
December 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Judah Benjamin has always made very clear that his is not a lawyer. He is an historian and writes from that perspective while doing his best to be accurate. I’m actually pretty sure he is glad to get good information and has been willing to correct himself when needed. I appreciate the efforts of both of you so much. We all struggle with this issue of Obama’s citizenship and eligibility because the media, who has significant responsibility in vetting this issue as well as the funds and personnel to manage it. That leaves it all to us, to struggle as best we may. I think we’ve all learned very had lessons in the course of the past several months. The toll has yet to be discerned, and certainly is not over.
December 1, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Dear Leo, thank you. We do not know who “Judah Benjamin ” is. however, to take the name of a notorious traitor does rise some suspicions. I had witten an email to larry Johnson at noquarterusa.net about your case and he showed no interest. He had been following all of texasdarlin’s posts, as well as Judah’s. Now Larry is an ex-CIA agent.
Frankly, I feel that the birth certificate issue was a “red herring” and that your strategy is the one that will clear up the issue of the several candidates’ eligibility.
It seems to me that many learned people , or supposedly learned people in our Senate were active in defrauding the Public with the hoodwinking senate Resolution 511. and that includes Bill and Hillary who are both lawyers.
Frankly, and I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I feel that there is substantial evidence here of a concerted effort to defraud the Public.
December 1, 2008 at 11:31 PM
It appears that justice Scalia is telling people to return to the constitution and interpet it
December 2, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Leo,I’m glad you are centered and not foolishly optimistic.Even if this were an ironclad case,we are living in perilous times with unprecedented corruption in all three branches of our government[if you do not include the 4th-APA Act of 1946 that Winterwood has been talking about on RBN lately].The point being that you are the only one I see in any of these cases that is doing ongoing research to find any flaws in your case and anticipate possible problems.Bickell will likely be promoted for his ilegal activity.But instead of losing focus,you are doing the right things.We know there was massive voter fraud and complicity and duplicity in the mainstream media endorsing Obama,but that is not the case going to SCOTUS.So,I agree with your comments about it being futile to alert the editors of the msm of your case.They know what’s going on,and choose to ignore it until greenlighted to biasedly cover it.
December 2, 2008 at 1:07 AM
Thank-you Leo for all you do. Please don’t give up. That is what the MSM wants.
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December 2, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Leo, I am well aware of the procedural barriers to victory, notwithstanding your substantive legal argument as to eligibility is sound. Maybe the best you can hope for is dicta that supports the premise, BO is not a natural born citizen assuming his biological father is Barack Obama, Sr. At any rate, not succeeding before the Electoral College votes on December 15 does not mean, ultimate failure. We will keep trying. (I might have come up with a way to establish standing in federal court to file a civil rights suit asking for Declarative Relief that BO is eligible for POTUS. http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
Please, if you want to run an argument past me; or have me look something up, let me know.
December 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM
What about his UK citizenship at birth? Is that established only by UK law? Do the circumstances of his birth (let’s say he was born in Hawaii) fall under a particular UK law. What US statute deals with this, if any?
December 2, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Okay people, wake up a realize that the Media (all inclusive) since it’s concept for all practical purposes has been an still is sold to the highest bidder. Whatever or whomever is most subject to it’s benifit, monetary or physical, will promote an print to that provider. Sensationism!!! to the masses.
Bill
December 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Most people I tell about this case tell me “the political uproar would be too great” for SCOTUS to actually overturn the election. But Congress has SPECIFICALLY addressed this issue in the 20th Amendment! (Section 3) – “…If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified…” I mean come on, no one can really say they weren’t talking about a situation like this when they said “President-ELECT,” i.e. the man that the nation wants as a leader.
December 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Fantastic lesson for all of us. As a former teacher, I would have relished a lesson of this kind with my high school students while studying the Constitution. Sadly, too many of us have lost out or were never taught the pertinent facts regarding this issue. Now, the reality of the moment might force all of us to learn.
December 2, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Scalia also excoriates those who use the legislative record to supplement their arguments, saying “the use of legislative history is illegitimate and ill advised in the interpretation of any statute…” (Zedner v. United States, 547 US 489, 2006) That seems a big barrier to the introduction of the views of the drafters of the 14th amendment (John Bingham for example). You’re left with an argument that the court should overturn at least three major Supreme Court cases (Wong Kim Ark and its progeny) and you don’t appear to have given a good reason why the court should overturn those cases and over 100 years of legislation based on those decisions. (The very DEFINITION of an activist court!) You also don’t give a reason why we should allow British laws to influence who the UNITED STATES should consider qualified to serve as President. What if England said that all persons who were in any related to British citizens would also be considered British citizens at their birth – would that make broad swaths of people ineligible for the Presidency?
December 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM
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December 3, 2008 at 3:57 AM
To say that American main stream media has failed to report what is “the story of the century” is an UNDERSTATEMENT. Their cover-up is treasonous. In the event the Supreme Court ultimately determines that Obama cannot be President — not qualifying as an Article II “natural born citizen” — the msm will be the blame for any civil unrest by failing to prepare the American public.
Watch this — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQnL2IwyUAs
December 3, 2008 at 5:55 AM
Question. “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President” You argue that the grandfather clause (“Citizen of the United States”) implies that “natural born Citizen” must mean something more than “citizen by birth”. While I’m inclined to agree with your conclusion, I’m not sure that the grandfather clause is necessarily the strongest or most compelling evidence supportive of that conclusion. Hypothetically, if “natural born citizen” meant nothing more than “citizen by birth”, wouldn’t there still be a need for a grandfather clause, solely because it is physically impossible to be a “citizen by birth” of a nation that was non-existent at the time of your birth? So isn’t it true that the presence of the grandfather clause, by itself, doesn’t necessarily imply that “natural born citizen” means anything more than “citizen by birth”? Just a devil’s advocate question from a supporter of your work.
December 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM
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December 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM
You say that all US Presidents were born of parents who were citizens at the time of birth of their son who went on to be president. That ignores the history of James Buchanan and Chester Arthur, both of whose father’s were not born in the United States, and for whom the record is sparse as to whether they became citizens prior to the birth of their respective sons.
Also, two presidents were born of mothers not born in the US. The first, Wilson was born in 1856, and if his parents were married prior to the effective date of the Act of Feb 10, 1855, his mother did not benefit by that Act, which automatically gave citizenship to women who married US citizenship after that date, which included Hoover’s mother some years later.
There are several postings on the various threads that differentiate with Latin terms between one born on US soil, and “natural born” and others.
At least you (if not your pleadings) acknowledge that Obama was most likely born in Hawai’i.
The most telling very practical point for any review will be the apparent absurdity of the citizenship of the parents argument: It would disqualify many millions of people whose parents came to the US and parented them before becoming US citizens, if ever.
No, Obama was “natural born” under the Constitution, and his Presidency will ensure. Interesting, but not sufficient argument, and I tend to agree that McCain is not eligible.
December 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM
I was taught the grandfather clause was specific for the founding fathers themselves….they themselves did not qualify for POTUS, so this was for the founding fathers to actually qualify themselves for the job so they could lead this young Republic in its early years……who else was to be the early leaders of the Republic.
December 4, 2008 at 3:08 AM
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December 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Wow! I found out about this blog from reading an article on CNN which mentioned something about “Donofrio vs. Wells”…
and now i’m reading and reading…
I Guess Joe Biden will be president! Hillary Will be VP! and Obama can take clinton’s NY Senate Seat!
(NY IS an Upgrade from Illinois…. right?)
December 8, 2008 at 6:23 AM
Привет, я думала что это совсем не так происходит:)
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