SCOTUS UPDATES for Dec 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETTER REGARDING NJ JUDGE MISCONDUCT HITS DOCKET

[UPDATE 3:12 pm]

Cort’s Docket now shows that the renewed application to Justice Scalia is dated Nov. 29.  That’s the date Cort express mailed the original papers.  We don’t know if they’ve passed the original papers on or if they used the new papers submitted in person today by Cort.  If they used the old papers, then why was Cort told yesterday it would take seven days?  Perhaps they used the new papers with the original date of filing.  We don’t know.

[UPDATE 2:44pm]Cort’s docket has been updated at SCOTUS.  The application has been “refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia”.

SCOTUS UPDATES for December 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETTER REGARDING NJ JUDGE MISCONDUCT HITS DOCKET

Cort Wrotnowski, (SCOTUS Docket No. 08A469) a day after facing the shock of his life when told by a SCOTUS clerk that his renewed application to Justice Scalia would be held back for 7 days due to anthrax screening, hand delivered 10 copies of his renewed application to the Security booth at SCOTUS this morning at 10:30 AM.  Cort was told by the Clerk’s office that the papers would “probably” be in the Clerk’s office by 2:00 PM.   Cort’s application, according to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, should be “transmitted promptly” to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia.  Keep your eyes on that Docket to see if they will follow the Rules of Court.

In my case, SCOTUS Docket No. 08A407, Donofrio v. Wells, the docket has been updated to include the letter I sent to all nine Justices which included copies of official Judicial Misconduct allegations against the New Jersey Judge who handled my initial NJ Appellate Division case.  This is important because the letter made clear that should the SCOTUS request an official copy of the case file from the lower court, the file on record there is fraudulent.

It’s significant to note that I sent this letter directly to the nine Justices.  While I did send a copy to the Clerk of the Court, the copies I sent to Justices went directly to them without asking the Clerk to distribute them.  Since this was not an official pleading, I wasn’t required to go through the Clerk’s office.  The letter was sent on November 22, 2008 but has only just hit the Docket today, December 2, 2008.  I didn’t think this letter would become part of the Docket.  I expect members of the press might be able to find out what this means. Nobody in the Clerk’s office will take my calls.

156 Responses to “SCOTUS UPDATES for Dec 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETTER REGARDING NJ JUDGE MISCONDUCT HITS DOCKET”

  1. You are doing the Lord’s work!

  2. Good job guys!!! I have been praying hard and had to look see if anything was happening as soon as I got out of bed this a.m.. Can’t believe how obnoxious the clerks office is being. gggrrrr It is beyond the pale. Just wanting you guys to know we are out here rooting for you all the way and if I was closer to D.C. (I’m in CA) I would be out in from of that court on Friday!!!
    Our Constitution MATTERS to me!!!!!!!!!

  3. Keep up the work!

  4. It’s there, the docket has been updated!!!!!!!!!

  5. mtngoat61 Says:

    Leo,

    FYI, I wrote a letter over a week ago to the Chief Justice asking for an investigation of things going on in the clerk’s office. I detailed in the letter some examples I as a citizen was concerned with. In particular, the issues with clerk Bickell. I thought a complaint directly to Roberts from a citizen would help expose what appears to be going on in the clerk’s office, i.e., deliberate delaying and sabotaging of cases being filed. JMHO.

    Goat

  6. The SCOTUS Docket shows and update: 11/29 “Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia”

  7. Rob Shorette Says:

    Leo,

    Thank you for waging the Good Fight for America.

    I’m retired from the Military and I now work as a DoD civilian. Leo it is imperative during these times that we maintain a Chain-of-Command that is pure and unchallenged as to whether or not if it is legitimate. The young people I lead are talking about the cases before the SC, this now becomes a matter of morale and readiness.

    Listening to you on Plains Radio, I noticed you were speaking of giving up and withdrawing your case and moving away from this country. Leo, battles turn sometimes on unseen factors away from the field of view. Now is the time to steel your spine and resolve to see this case through.

    I believe in God, but do not get to church much, yet is apparent that unseen forces beyond our view, are at work to shape our future.

    You may not agree Leo, yet you were called as a Guardian and Protector,
    which placed you on the path you follow now.

    For comfort Leo follow this link and you may discover why you ended up where you are today.

    http://www.christian-forum.net/lofiversion/index.php/t24180.html

  8. gatorsmom Says:

    Woo hoo! Cort’s docket was updated to show submitted to Scalia:

    Nov 29 2008 Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.

  9. just posted on docket
    Nov 29 2008 Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia

  10. It looks like the docket has been udpated for Cort’s case. Great job Cort!

  11. Great work guys!! The Supreme Court is showing that Cort’s brief was resubmitted to Justice Scalia on 11/29. Am I reading that correctly.

  12. I sent a fedEx letter that WND has written and made available to any/all who want to send letter to SCOTUS, to be hand delivered by FedEx that urges SCOTUS to act in the words of the Constitution. GO to WND.com site and look for the letter to Scotus, it only costs $10.95 to send all nine Justices the letter through FedEX and is guaranteed to be there by Fri AM for the meeting. I urge all of you to get that bunch of letters sent. It is cheap and quick and lets them know that we want action in and for the truth of the Constitution.

    Claudia

  13. Fernley Girl Says:

    I don’t know how I could help, but if you want help with anything let me know. If this fails the Constitution is fishwrap.

  14. Hey Leo,

    I’m throwing the party for you in NJ when this is all over.

    Just remember that! ;)

  15. Free America Says:

    Leo, thank you for every thing you are doing.

    I am now headed to the USPS to overnight letters to all 9 Justices, and I have copied my Senator, my Congressman, my Secretary of State, and my electoral voter for my district. The letter is a plea to the SCOTUS to hear all cases relevant to ensure that Constitutional law is followed regarding natural born citizen status.

  16. Thank you for helping your country! You are a saint for putting up with the clerks!!

  17. BerlinBerlin Says:

    Hi Leo,
    I am following this case all the way through Citizen Wells and Your site.
    This is such a good feeling to see You go on.
    Really, the only way is through Thomas. The only judge that will take the constitution over any other thing.
    Go Leo!

  18. American4Americaa Says:

    Leo,
    I can only humbly thank you for everything you are doing on behalf of our country. We as citizens can write to our represntatives in our home states and Washington; but, the blood you bleed and the air that you breath sustains us all.

    I, also, wanted to say I appreciate your passion during last night’s interview!!! Boy, were you PISSED!

  19. For Leo,

    I left a comment about presidents’ parents. I don’t see it anywhere and can understand if was removed. If you read these comments or have someone that does, please email me or post that you received it.

    If you have heard a rumor that I support Mr. Obama, it is not true.

    Thank you for what you are doing, and I hope that yours and/or another challenge is heard and acted on.

  20. [...] Birth certificate, Donofrio, Obama, SCOTUS, Wrotnowski |   120208  Just so you know, Wrotnowski’s paperwork was going to be delayed for 7 days as someone at SCOTUS had pegged it f….   No worries mate…the copies were hand delivered this morning to avert a delay. Cort [...]

  21. Hang in there…where there is a will, there is always a way.

  22. joe la costa Says:

    neither hospital in hawaii will admit he was born there, but state now lists kaiopolia as birth site on special obama page

  23. Texas Hold’em with Obama

    Obama: 6, 7

    Donofrio: A, A

    Blind: A, A, K, K

    Obama: Raise, ALL IN!

    Donofrio: CALL!

  24. Thank God we have someone fighting for this! You’re doing amazing things and we’re backing you 100%. Keep pushing for what’s honest and true!!

  25. TurnRight Says:

    Is it probable that Obama thinks he is unnaturally born?

  26. sayitisntso Says:

    Leo,

    Lan Laphere (sp?) was arguing on his show with a caller recently and it was clear that neither Lan nor the caller understood why you wanted an independent site here at wordpress. I repeated to him what you said on Joe Thunder’s show having to do with not wanting to inflame any faction that would use this Constitutional crisis for their own purposes. I felt it was important to tell Lampher that you are interested in keeping this case neutral.

    It was pretty heated over there. I wish readers who aren’t attorneys would let the process happen and not associate this case with the recent election. It’s taking place only because of the threat to the Constitution which is and should be important in itself alone. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  27. truthseeker Says:

    Leo is there still going to be a rally before your case? I heard you talking about that last night on the radio. If there is a rally, what day and time would it be?

  28. You can make sure the Supreme Court justices have a piece of your mind when they review a case Friday challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which stipulates the position can only be filled by “a natural born citizen.”

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  29. [...] updated his blog: [UPDATE 2:44pm] - Cort’s docket has been updated at SCOTUS.  The application has [...]

  30. Scotworkman Says:

    You’re definitely doing the Lord’s work, Leo! If the Lord was an idiot with too much time on his hands, that is.

    Scotworkman@yahoo.com

    http://www.stormfront.org

  31. Thank you for the update, Leo.

  32. Kevan Corkill Says:

    Praying, prayers the the TRUTH will come into the light for all to see…Amen.

  33. Thank you for doing this. You are keeping the kids distracted while the adults go do some real work.

    Keep it up!

  34. Thank you, Leo and Cort, for all you are doing for all of us. When/if you start feeling like you have the weight of the world on your shoulders, please know there are many, many people cheering you on and praying for you, the Supremes, and this great country.

  35. truthseeker:

    Rally at hte Supreme Court 8 am Friday.
    http://www.wemustbeheard.com

  36. Thinking4Myself Says:

    LEO, YOU WILL PREVAIL! You have NO WAY

  37. David Mivshek Says:

    Leo, I heard a recording of the Plains Radio talk show. I heard your passion and it resonated deep within me. Some of your statements, such as the one in which you hollered that U.S. has become a stinking corpse is dead on. I often hear myself think such things when I think not only about U.S. society, but Earth in general. My anger has impelled me to realize that choice does not exist for anyone anywhere; therefore, the concept of America’s “free nation” motto is inherently false. It’s a simple logical thought process which anyone should be able to comprehend. 1) I did not choose my body, but it entraps me. 2) I did not choose to be part of the timeline in which I live, but events outside of my control envelop me. 3) I did not choose to be a Human. 4) I did not choose to live on Earth, which no one escapes unless your an astronaut, and very few are selected for that lifestyle, but they always return, and if they don’t, their dead. See, we were given the belief that choice is bestowed upon us to hide us from the fact that we are subjects commanded by a higher power. Some have told me that my viewpoint is depressing, but I find knowing the truth to be comforting. Although these people who do things like sending a letter away for anthrax testing are obviously mentally unable to fulfill basic tasks in life, they, just like us, are manipulated by a source of power that is directing civilization’s course to satisfy a preplanned destiny. Remember to clearly communicate your upset thoughts and emotions to the supreme being, so the supreme being can realize that they are also being dumb. That helps me. And I’m afraid if you leave the country, then you might end up somewhere where there’s new faces, a different language, but they are the same kind of dumb people invented by the same maker.

    I love you, man. Keep up the good work. You literally are saving America. And to anyone who is against Leo for his purpose, you’re making AMERICA A-CRIME-A. Down with the criminals!

  38. Thinking4Myself Says:

    (Sorry, fat fingers hit the wrong button!)
    LEO, YOU WILL PREVAIL! You have NO WAY of KNOWING HOW MANY SUPPORT YOU. For everyone you know of there are sure to be thousands more who haven’t contacted you directly or called in due to time constraints etc. BUT WE WILL MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD & OUR PRESENCE KNOWN. BELIEVE IT!!! There are things going on beneath the surface of the Supreme Court AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS GOING ON “BELOW THE SURFACE” OUTSIDE THE SUPREME COURT. DON’T LET YOUR FRUSTRATION OVERWHELM YOU. YOU MUST BE CLEARHEADED & CALM GOING FORWARD. YOU ARE “ALL IN” & YOU WILL NOT “FOLD”. BE CONFIDENT AND HAVE FAITH IN GOD & AMERICA. BELIEVE!
    M&PM, your Jersey friends

  39. Readers may find this clip useful in getting the word out:

  40. Scotworkman Says:

    Hey everyone. GOD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL GENIE.

    Thank you for listening.

    scotworkman@yahoo.com

  41. I didn’t think we had any patriots left that were cut from the old cloth.
    Our forefathers would be SO PROUD of you TWO!!!
    It take LOVE of country and COURAGE to step forward as you guys have.

    I am so grateful to you both.

  42. I replayed Scalia’s speech to the Federalist Society several times while working late last night. I was very reassured by the openness and relaxed quality of his seriousness and wit. We have great minds of genuine character on the court. I think it bodes well for fair and honest hearing of the cases you and Cort have presented.

    Listening, I kept returning to the bizarre and disingenuous “Sense of the Senate” resolution co-sponsored by Obama which declared John McCain to be a Natural Born Citizen. The offensive and dishonest nature of this Sense of the Senate could not be lost on minds like Scalia. The treachery is too transparent to miss.

    Leo and Cort may have stumbled onto a slowly emerging Oligarchy comprised of the Washington political establishment, including sycophants in both political parties, which has reached critical mass in this last election. While there is considerable difference still between Democrats and Republicans, there is a greater difference that has evolved between the political establishment and the American People.

    The end game seems to be the final and total destruction of The Electoral College and it’s replacement by a home-grown Oligarchy of elites that control much of Washington and the two political parties. I see this as a natural progression of the imbalances created by the 17th Amendment.

    I think this currently presenting phenomenon of Oligarchy is exactly what the framers wanted to prevent.

    Forget grand conspiracies because they are not needed for this. Oligarchy naturally arises from human concentrations of power and capital. What we may have here is a confluence of events of historic proportion.

    If indeed my instincts are on target, what lies before the court in Leo’s and Cort’s cases includes the question of preserving The Electoral College and the prospect restoring the framers intent to have a special, restricted and independent non-partisan process to elect a president of the states.

    It seems like a radical idea to consider the political parties should have no direct role in the election of the POTUS, and that role should be returned to the framers intent.

    But this is a case of first impression, which means we have been wandering in the wilderness for over 200 years with no guidance from the court regarding the questions brought by both Leo and Cort.

    What I want most is for Oligarchy to be prevented as the framers intended.

    I trust the court also feels the same obligation, and how ever these cases conclude, let us remember the system and culture of jurisprudence that gave birth to the due process that allows Leo and Cort to be our champions is the same system and culture that has built this court and filled with the Justices in whose hands our fate should and must now rest.

    Have faith in what is to come. We stand at the precipice of renewal, not the end.

  43. To Joe La Costa

    Do you have the link to the page that says kaiopolia is Obama’s birthplace? Thanks!

  44. Researcher on Obama Says:

    Here is the secret way to tell if God is working on an issue. When everything comes just in time then it came through God.

    This case has so obviously God’s help because everything is coming barely in the last moment.

    Right now Leo is winning. There is almost no chance that Obama will become President.

    This case is 100 times more important to future Presidents and our country. Obama is standing here out of Love to allow our country to fix the huge defects in the election process. The beginning of the healing process will be when SCOTUS hands down a solid definition of Natural Born Citizen.

  45. Researcher on Obama Says:

    Do not worry about Leo giving up. God chose Leo because God knew that Leo will follow through to the end and win this case.

  46. Leo, my husband and I will be in front of the Supreme Court on Friday Dec. 5th at 8:00am to show our support. We want to thank you for all that you have done. Look forward to seeing you there and GOOD LUCK!!

  47. Mr. Donofrio, Maybe some of your viewer’s can “comment”
    on the attached , maybe far-fetched idea I posted on
    the internet. Did Stanlley Ann Dunham Legally meet the
    requirement’s to even “file” for a BC in Hawaii? Maybe
    FOIA can be used to search for tax record’s by a landlord, etc..

    The Right Side of Life » Blog Archive » Martin v. Lingle: Martin Vows to Appeal Circuit Court’s Decision
    November 21st, 2008 18:28
    [...] Andy Martin, Plaintiff in his case Martin v. Lingle, today vowed to appeal the Hawaii Circuit Court’s Dismissal to the Hawaii Intermediate Court of [...]

    Poppet
    November 21st, 2008 20:32
    “Searching for a Exact Date”
    I have been “Searching” for the EXACT DATE when Stanley Ann Dunham, or her Parent’s, became Resident’s of Hawaii. So far, I have only been able to find that she Graduated High School from Mercer Island, WA in 1960. I’ve read that she was not to Happy to go Hawaii. If Ann was registered to go to the University of Hawaii she most likely would have started classes in September 1960.
    Hawaii State Law’s require that a Resident has to have lived there for at least “one” year.
    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

    (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

    If Obama was born on August 04, 1961 and (mother)filed for a Birth
    Certificate on August 08, 1961, that would mean that
    Ann Dunham (a minor) and. or, her Parent’s would have to have taken residence prior to August 04, or, 08 in 1960.
    If they took residence in Hawaii “AFTER” August 04, 1960 she would not meet the one year residence that is required.
    I have searched numerous website’s to no avail.
    Many websites, including wiki-pedia (which can be alltered)
    only include the year, not a factual date which could be
    questioned. I would wonder if “state or Federal Tax Record’s can be searched for the “True” dates that the
    Dunham Family became Legal Resident’s of Hawaii. The
    BC of Obama might not have been Legal.
    If “anyone” can find this information, it might be very usefull. Also, there are conflicting date’s regarding the
    “Marriage” of Ann Dunham & Obama Sr., and if ever
    took place, or was even Legal. Please “comment” if you
    find any “exact” info. In my Opinion, there are “Huge” cover up’s for Obama, who if “actually” becomes President, He will most likely be submitted to Blackmail and Extortion. (Already starting) Maybe (FOIA) can be used. Thank’s, Dan

    8Phil
    November 21st, 2008 20:38
    Poppet,
    If I recall correctly I think Andy Martin has done some research along the lines you’re speaking.
    contrariancommentary.blogspot.com is one site to start.
    -Phil

    9Poppet
    November 22nd, 2008 04:04
    Phil: I had e-mailed Andy on 10/16 suggesting if his Team could find out
    anything on the “residence” issue under Hawaii Law 338-17.8
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch...
    I noticed that he used 338-18 in his “case”.
    Maybe 338-17.8 should be added, and, or investigated.

    Another Issue I just thought of is, Investigating Obama’s 2 children’s
    Birth Certificate’s with the “Parent’s” , Full Names, Address, “RACE”, etc..
    Maybe there are less restriction’s on getting the info in Illinois than Hawaii?
    Anyone who might know may “comment”. Dan

  48. To Mr. Donofrio: I found this information awhile ago
    regarding McCain , Resolution 511. I know it is not a legal
    Document. I thought you might be interested in reading
    Lawyer’s Tribe & Olson statement.
    Thank You for All the Work you are doing to protect the
    Constitution! Dan Dansmith1954@aol.com

  49. Applause! Applause! Applause! Good work Leo and Cort.

  50. chingalecabrones Says:

    I heard a rumor about Cort’s docket being tested for anthrax? Is this true?

  51. Sorry, I submitted the comment to soon.
    Here are the addresses: Dan

    McCain Resolution 511

    READ PAGE TWO, PARAGRAPH 3, ASK THEM HOW THEY
    PRESUME THAT OBAMA WAS BORN ON AUGUST,04,1961
    IN HAWAII. WHY WAS THIS INCLUDED IN A RESOLUTION
    WITH NO FACT. DID THEY SEE A VAULTED BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
    THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED. SOMETHING’S UP!

    http://leahy.senate.gov/issues/Judiciary/McCainAnalysis.pdf

    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/043008d.html

    The addresses and phone # may have changed.

    The two signature’s are possibly by,
    Laurence H. Tribe
    Office: Hauser 420
    Assistant: Kathleen McGillicuddy 617/496-2181
    Phone: (617) 495-4621
    Fax: (617) 495-3383
    Email: tribe@law.harvard.edu

    Theodore B. Olson
    Partner
    tolson
    T: (202) 955-8668
    F: (202) 530-9575
    Washington, D.C. Office
    1050 Connecticut Avenue, N.W.
    Washington, DC 20036-5306
    USA

  52. Tony Stark Says:

    It doesn’t matter if Obama was born in Hawaii, Canada, Kenya or Mars. He was still a UK and Colonies citizen at the time of his birth because of his father’s citizenship. If he was born in Hawaii, then he is also a US citizen but not a “natural born” one and thereby ineligible to be POTUS under the Constitution.

  53. Leo,
    I heard you last night when you lost your temper.I knew that you should get some rest and by the next day factors would improve.They did. Thank God.Now its time to get your patriot flag and parade through the streets!

  54. The gods be with you, all of you. How do we get the MEDIA to notice? I am forwarding this info to everyone I know. If there is something I can do, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

  55. BIG HUG AND BIG KISS TO YOU LEO!!!!!
    THANK YOU for all of your hard work. YOU are our LIGHT!
    And THANK YOU and BIG HUG to CORT as well.
    You guys are the kind of hope and change that we need in our country! You are keeping our hope and hopefully, our Constitution, alive.

  56. Just heard on regular FOX NEWS about “a Supreme Court suit about Obama’s eligiblility. ”
    “A similar suit has already been throw out”

    Question…..What similar suit are they talking about?”

    This is the first time I have heard any mention of it on a regular news station.

  57. Simon Diamond Says:

    Scot, you wouldn’t know Work if it were the middle portion of your screen misnomer.

  58. Thank you for everything both you and Cort are doing!!!

  59. Within the last half hour (3pm-3:30pm) California time…
    I was out getting kids from school so don’t know EXACT time….
    my husband said…

    “FOX NEWS announced the CONFERENCE at SCOTUS on Friday concerning the issues raised about Obama being a ‘Natural Born U.S. Citizen”.

    YAH!!!! Finally the MSM is reporting what they should have been reporting for months!!!

  60. HOLY MOLY! GO DONOFRIO!

    Fox News (on Brit Hume’s show) just covered the concern over Obama’s eligibility and mentioned Leo’s case. They said a case over Obama’s eligibility has made it to the Supreme Court and is scheduled to conference this Friday.

    I guess Fox finally thinks it is worth mentioning (even if only for 7 seconds) and they want to be the first to have done so if the SCOTUS decides to hear the case.

    Maybe O’Reilly will pick it up tonight too! …or at least Hannity has to!

  61. sliderblaze Says:

    once again, outstanding. I wonder if Oliver Stone will do a movie on this on, titled “LEO” i doubt it….

  62. Hey Corby,

    I noticed you were interested enough to read it. Isn’t that telling or are you a “distracted child”?

  63. Thank Heavens that we have a third branch of government to check the abuses of the other two! Whatever the various rulings on this case – they will trickle down to all the other “natural born” filings around the country. IMHO? = they will force action by the Congress via an emergency session and passage of an amendment (like the one the Republicans tried in 2005) changing the “natural born” clause to include those naturalized for 20 years. My guess is that most Republicans and GWB will gladly go along with it and it will easily become law to avert a crisis on the 15th.

    HOWEVER, that scenario does not need Sen Obama to produce any document at all – or does it? He would still have to prove when he assumed citizenship – and how – to prove it was over 20 years ago. Yet more specifically to the Donofrio case, he would also have to prove when he relinquished his UK citizenship. If the SCOTUS deems it required.

    All of this still doesn’t even get to the also-constitutional issue of Sen Clinton violating the emoluments clause to become the Sec of State…. Congress might need to pull a two-fer. OR…

    tsk tsk tsk… This “new” re-administration of the Clintonistas begins to thumb their collective noses at our third branch of government, and declares that they will ascend to power and rule by fait accompli, or claim it is somehow the “will of the people” and begin chanting “democracy rules” etc… in order to ignore SCOTUS. It will be 1917 all over again…

    Remember, THAT revolution started when the Russian Supreme Court ruled the Bolsheviki to be illegal usurpers also. And we all remember how well that ruling went don’t we? ;) reeko

    “In order to understand a commie, you gotta think like a commie.”

  64. Leo, Thanks So Much for doing the right thing on this issue. If I wasn’t in California I would be your right hand man running the “parts” around, this means EVERYTHING to myself,my friends, and my family..most of all OUR COUNTRY! God Bless You!

  65. Researcher on Obama Says:

    Leo I love your anger on the radio. I am listening now. You have just hung up the phone.

    I will meet you at the Supreme Court on Friday. I know you will win this case. Stick with it. Remember God knows you are wonderful and gave you this wonderful case to present. You will succeed because God is your guide.

    See you on the court steps. I hope a million people show up. But it does not matter if no one shows up but you. You are the ONE that god put his faith in. You are the ONE that the world has chosen. Many men have died fighting for America. At least you will come out of this alive.

    After this is all over soon, you must go have a nice poker tournament to relax. Blessings upon you Leo.

  66. Researcher on Obama Says:

    truthseeker Says:

    December 2, 2008 at 7:55 pm
    Leo is there still going to be a rally before your case? I heard you talking about that last night on the radio. If there is a rally, what day and time would it be?
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    I hope to get there early in the morning and stay all day. I know some other people who will be there also. Impossible to know how big a crowd will show up.

    I was thinking that when they review the entire case that at that time was more important to show up. But I will simply go both times. I am sure I will have a good time meeting all the people who support Leo and Berg and Cort etc.

  67. Katy in Indy Says:

    Leo:

    Just wanted to say thank you for all you are doing to protect our Constitution and our nation. God bless you!

    “Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society” — Aristotle

  68. I sent my letters to the SCOTUS before Thanksgiving.

  69. Stay strong.
    They may agree, they may not…
    but they need to hear it.
    The constitution matters.

  70. Brett Baldwin Says:

    Thank you Leo for doing such an awesome job with your lawsuit.
    All US Citizens have the right to see any and all papers that will prove whether Barak Obama is a natural born citizen.

    Thank you again.
    -Brett

  71. THANK YOU, Leo. THANK YOU, Cort.

    You are my heroes!

    Don’t EVER give up.

  72. truthbetold11 Says:

    scotworkman, now you are the one with to much time on his hands. you see real men take action. you however must go to all the blogs and waste your time. why dont you go down to the supreme court and tell them yourself this is a joke and let me know asap so i can congraulate you on some real workman.

  73. KatLawson Says:

    LEO —

    Someone on Ed’s Plains Radio was talking about this case: Perkins vs Elg, 1939 regarding Dual Citizenship.

    Here is a link to Dual Citizenship, with Perkins vs Elg

    http://www.richw.org/dualcit/cases.html#Elg

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  75. KatLawson Says:

    Leo — I’m sure you do know that Roger Calero made the Presidential run twice: 2004 & 2008. He is a Nicaraguan & up front about it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Calero

    He is on the Socialist Workers Party — a COMMUNIST party, USA.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(USA)

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY that the SOS or WHOEVER it is that is supposed to be “minding the store” — AND NOT!

  76. Truth Detector Says:

    Hello all,

    If Barack Obama continues to evade the eligibility question, then on Dec. 15th all of the McCain electors should protest by voting for Hillary Clinton. If they stick to voting for McCain, then Obama will obviously become President since he has more than enough electors.

    BUT, if word gets out that the McCain electors will vote for Hillary for President, then it’s not outside the realm of possibility that we can get 50 or so Democratic electors to defect and vote for Hillary instead. That way, the integrity of the Constitution will be protected, and Republicans will show that they put principle above all else. (Plus, a President Hillary Clinton will be less effective if she wins under these circumstances)

    This would PROVE that Republicans place principle above politics. Hillary Clinton is no doubt a natural-born citizen, and conservatives will prove their strict adherence to and love of the Constitution by supporting an eligible candidate for office (even though we all disagree with her on the issues, of course).

    Please consider supporting this option. Thank you.

  77. Leo, I believe you can make a valid claim that the DNC are state actors for the purpose of validating the Candidate’s eligibility to get onto the general election ballots in the states. You said that, someone in the NJ S of S’s office admitted, that office ASSUMED the DNC had vetted the candidate. In GA, for example, the law says, the nominee submitted by the Party SHALL be eligible for the office sought. However, no law says, anyone has to check.

    Please, read my memo. Maybe this will help explain better.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/find-out-whether-barack-obama-is-a-natural-born-citizen-as-required-under-article-ii-of-the-us-constitution-and-stop-the-electoral-college-from-voting-for-him-if-he-is-not/

  78. I sent letters to very Justice and a second one to Justice Thomas. Dr. James David Manning of the Attah Ministeries in Harlem NY sent a very profound letter in on Thursday. I called the Misistries as I saw his utube about Obama and it spell bound me. He is a very good letter wriiter and speacker so I know Justice Thomas will take our letters into consideration. Obama hates Justice Thomas and he said when he become President he will take Justice Thomas off the bench.
    I am so glad the Dorofrio did not stop his lawsuit as this is time to perservere We need people like Berg and Dorofrio to take this laswsuites to the right courts. I hope we have a bull dog of a lawyer I think we do.

  79. Sid Davis Says:

    Here is an interesting article written in 2000, before Obama was on the Presidential scene.

    It covers the historical context of the “natural born citizen” provision and offers insight into what was intended.

    This might be useful if further arguments are required.

    http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/jyinger/Citizenship/history.htm

  80. I don’t know if this is going to make anybody feel better – but every time I post anything about this issue the Pentagon, Andrews and Fairchild show up within minutes to read the new post.

    Leo, Cort!!! Keep going – you are HEROES!!!

  81. naturalborncitizen Says:

    LEO DONOFRIO ADDRESSES READER QUESTIONS:

    The Swedish girl in Perkins v. Elg was a “Natural born Citizen”… now get this cause it’s important… “at the time of her birth” Het father was a Naturalized citizen by 1906. According to an act of 1855, her mother became automatically naturalized when the father was naturalized in 1906.

    here is some info on the act of 1855

    http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/ogle.html

    The girl was born in 1907… on United States soil. So, she was born in US to two parents who were both citizens at the time of her birth, just like every other President.

    Therefore, at the time of her birth, having two citizen parents and born on US soil, she was “born” a “natural born citizen”.

    Later on she gained dual citizenship. I have repeatedly stated that it’s the nature of the candidate’s citizenship “at borth” which determines whether that candidate is a “natural born citizen”.

    And I have repeatedly stated that if Obama had been a natural born citizen “at birth”, then he would be eligible. If a nbc later obtained dual citizenship, that’s another issue not addressed in the Constitution.
    But ELG was a nbc because she was born in the US to two US citizens, hence she was nbc and that’s why the Supreme Court held that she was a “natural born citizen”.

    As for Wong Kim Arc, the individual in that case was held by the SCOTUS to be a “native born citizen”, the SCOTUS did not say he was a “natural born citizen”. And Wong Kim Arc supports my posittion because the SCOTUS did mention the term “nbc” in their opinion but they DID NOT say Wong Kim Arc wa a “nbc”, they stopped short of that and instead said he was a native born citizen b/c he was born on US soil. I still believe the opinion has issues, but the Court certainly did not say Wong Kim Arc was a nbc… this is a big misconception and people should read the full opinion to understand it.

    As for ZEDNER v. UNITED STATES and Scalia’s comments abot legislative history, it’s true scalia is a strict textualist, but his opinion in that case was more concerned with prohibiting the use of legislative intent when the statute is “unambiguous”:

    “Use of legislative history in this context thus conflicts not just with my own views but with this Court’s repeated statements that when the language of the statute is plain, legislative history is irrelevant. See, e.g., United States v. Gonzales, 520 U. S. 1, 6 (1997) . “We have stated time and again that courts must presume that a legislature says in a statute what it means and means in a statute what it says there. When the words of a statute are unambiguous, then, this first canon is also the last: the judicial inquiry is complete.” ”

    I’m not saying Scalia would even use legislative intent when the statute is ambiguous, but it’s clear that when the statute is ambiguous there’s at least a good reason to have a look at legislative intent. Anyway, Scalia was a minority of one on that concept anyway and the other Justices, including Justice John Paul Stevens do look at legislative history.

  82. Objective Analysis Says:

    Stay of the election means that NO ONE (not even the electors can vote) if granted. The S.Ct. needs to stay the election b/c both the RNC and DNC have put ineligible candidates for this 2008 presidential candidate based on the U.S. Constitution.

    I would not be surprised if the Justices rule 9-0 to stay the 2008 presidential election for vote on 12/15/08 in order to hold hearings on the cases (not just Donofrio’s).

  83. mtngoat61 Says:

    Hi Leo,

    I am listening to you on the Plains Radio show. I suggest that you sue clerk Bickell for obstruction of justice AND as violating your CIVIL RIGHTS. Bring a federal lawsuit that he violated your Civil Rights by interfering with your right to bring an emergency stay action to SCOTUS. JMHO.

    Goat

  84. As another part of the strategy:
    Contact Senators and Representatives who will not be running in the next cycle to stand up and object (only need one of each) to the certification of the vote on 1-6.
    Senator Mel Martinez(R) of Florida announced today that he will not be running in 2010. He and others like him must be contacted. Since they will have no political risk maybe for once they will actually abide by their oath of office and actually defend and protect the Constitution as one final patriotic act of their tenure and finally act for the benefit of the Nation instead of their own self interest.

  85. Some interesting things in this Sense of the Senate resolution.

    Article II, Section 1 is not completely quoted in the resolution. The grandfather clause was excluded, in particular. What if one was born of joint nationality is conspicuously not mentioned.

    Then come the Romney and Goldwater obfuscations.

    No doubt this transparent ruse was a calculated device; they were preparing the battleground for the treachery to come.

    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

  86. Kathleen Gotto Says:

    Hi Leo,

    I’ve been following your case and the others with a lot of interest and deep respect for you guys, for fighting to uphold our Constitution. It’s what real men do. There are at least thousands of us standing behind you and cheering you on, and we’re praying for you, too. For your protection, strength and wisdom.

    I’m a New York Italian-American with connections in New Jersey, and I know New Jersians are tough and know how to play hardball. So, keep on keeping on and rejoice when the heat pours on hotter and hotter, because that means the cookin’ is almost done! Go Leo and Cort! –kingskid–

  87. Cort Wrotnowski, (SCOTUS Docket No. 08A469) a day after facing the shock of his life when told by a SCOTUS clerk that his renewed application to Justice Scalia would be held back for 7 days due to anthrax screening, hand delivered 10 copies of his renewed application to the Security booth at SCOTUS this morning at 10:30 AM.

    I work at the Post Office. A P&DC Production and Distribution Center. These are located in every major city. Also in these offices are machines that process and cancel the mail. The machines that cancel the mail also check for anthrax. The initial process takes less than 1 hour. So after reading the letter would be held for 7 days for anthrax screening I must assume it is a fradulant way to delay a legal matter. You need to simply verify what I have just told you. All the first class mail that is sent through the post offices nationwide is checked with machines that take less than 1 hour. The only way it would take 7 days is for the mail to be held 7 days before it was checked with a machine such as is used everywhere in America. Again it takes less than 1 hour to check letters on mail processing equipment. I hope this helps you sir.

  88. From the Tribune ad:

    Quote:
    “In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled
    if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent,
    the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people
    by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a
    lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become
    a law unto himself; it invites anarchy .” Olmstead v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438

    which says in summation:

    under which the order in the present case was made, is free from constitutional objection because it does not authorize the search and seizure of books and papers, but only requires the defendant or claimant to produce them. That is so; but it declares that, if he does not produce them, the allegations which it is affirmed they will prove shall be taken as confessed.(my comment–this is what Berg contended when Obama did not respond to his lawsuit) This is tantamount to compelling their production, for the prosecuting attorney will always be sure to state the evidence expected to be derived from them as strongly as the case will admit of.

    http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org…r-Nov-2008.pdf

    Please visit and join our Notmypresidnt forum:

    http://www.govpalin.com

  89. Creativeogre Says:

    Leo,

    Excellent work, and a Nation that thanks you for being a true patriot.

    Looking forward, If the SCOTUS finds Obama ineligible, The electors that have already been chosen by the states (Dem Obama) would the states then send the other panel of electors (Repub) to the vote? How is that handled (granted each state laws are different)? Would the Dem panel of electors be forced to vote for another candidate outside of their party? Would the Dem electors be recalled to their state? and replaced by the electors of the (republican) party?, and Also, If Obama is only ruled ineligable after the Electoral college votes, then it would be up to the Congress to reject the College vote. What happens then? I know that this is uncharted water, but we should look ahead to the resolution of this crisis, and not just the current issues.

  90. Deep breaths….

    Words cannot adequately express my gratitude for your efforts.

    Please God… look after Leo and Cort.

    Godspeed.

  91. Leo,

    When you talk to the Justices, be sure to talk about the intent of the framers in that they believed the President should have NO split loyalties. That is why they set the bar higher; a Natural Born Citizen in contrast to an ordinary citizenship. Then, mention Obama’s compaining for Odinga in Kenya (on YouTube) to show an example of split loyalty that can be caused by having a Foreign National Parent. Split loyalty is what our framers wanted to avoid in the Presidency.

  92. Leo,
    You probably already know this case, but therightsideoflife blog refers to a posting in the obamafile blog about a Supreme Court case Perkins v. ELG, 307 US 325 (1939). It speaks to the difference in citizenship status between someone born in the US with one foreign parent and one US citizen parent and someone born in the US with both parents US citizens, one of whom had been naturalized.
    Thank you to you and to Cort for all you are doing to stand up for our Constitution. This is not about political parties. It is about upholding the rule of law. Without it, we are no longer the country we all love.

  93. poppet and leo

    Poppet and Leo

    The question of Ann Dunham’s residency could be found under the Freedom of Information Act in the U of Washington records and the U of Hawaii student records which would reveal whether she was an in state or out of state student
    Most residency stats have an intent to remain
    clause,
    Ann Dunham was a student at U of Hawaii Sept 1960
    U of Wash. August 1961
    see. AtlasShrugs,com

    U of Wash August 1961

    See. Atlas Shrugs,com

  94. ****** NEWS. *******

    Leo
    Texas Darlin,com. just reported that the divorce records were found listing Soetoro having two children
    Therefore proof Obama was adopted by Soetorro
    ( Indonesian citizenship)
    Legal name Barry Soetorro?!!
    Naturalization required on return?!!
    Second adoption by grandparents when he posed for airport picture with Obama Sr. ?!!

  95. Not_Even_A_Peep Says:

    My eyes and mind are eager and wide open now. Thank you both, for your courage to push forward. I will never allow Foxnews to deceive me and spoon feed their Saudi Arabia and Rupbert Murdock ownership driven agenda again.

    God Bless you and the bloggers who have made me even more proud to be born American.

  96. ripalinsky Says:

    2 years ago who would ever have thought America would choose a man with no experience, who has hidden everything about himself, to be President? I expected Clinton to tell the truth, then I expected McCain to tell the truth. I kept thinking the MSM would confess the truth. I thought Obama’s massive campaign finance fraud, voter fraud, crimes, corruption (Donald Young) would be told. NOTHING. Today, hardly anyone even knows about the natural born citizen issues.

    Leo, and the natural born citizen requirement, is about our last hope to avoid massive evil and widespread chaos. The problem should have been detected and solved long ago, before millions gave money to Obama. Obama, the University of Chicago Senior Constitutional Lecturer, knew better and should personally face the anger of all those he has tried to deceive.

    We must all pray for Obama’s deception to be brought to light and corrected regardless of the consequences.

  97. Could Obama be called a dual natural born citizen? I think not but as absurd as this sounds Obama wants you to believe it. It is obvious article 2 of the Constitution makes an exception for dual citizens at the time the Constitution was written. It is also obvious there is no exception for dual citizens to be president after the Constitution was ratified. Obama would have us believe he is qualified to be president on the basis of article 2. Actually Obama doesn’t want you to read and understand what article 2 says. Because he is a constitutional lawyer he knows he is a fraud. He must believe America will not find this out or if America does maybe he hopes Congress will pass a law to let him become the first dual citizen president. He is what I call a DUALLY.

  98. (in partial response to Creativeogre) Plz allow me to interject…
    I have mused elsewhere that the unconstitutional appointment of Hillary to Sec of State because of the emoluments clause and this “natural born” issue of Obama’s are somehow linked. Allow me to expound on that by noting your question(s). Just free-associating here, but it was Bill Clinton who first said during the primaries that Sen Obama “could not be President” – and this coming from the man who does not parse words. He knows what “is” is…

    That being said, also please note that Philip Berg is a rabid diehard Clinton bootlicker of some fame. He may also be a nutjob, but hey, even a blind pig finds an ACORN every now and then… (get it?) More importantly, his efforts have always been met with the tacit, if not implicit, wink-wink nudge-nudge from the Clintonistas. Check the PUMA blogs… Still, IMHO the Clintons will NOT be denied. That brings us to your question, and here’s why:

    The Electoral College does not require its individual members’ votes to go to the losing Party’s candidate of the general election should the winning Party’s candidate become unavailable or unqualified. In other words, the States who went Blue are not about to cast their EC vote for McCain. Remember, the succession of powers as enumerated in the Constitution applies to the “President Elect” which does not exist until AFTER the Electoral College. And there is precedent on this issue: I forget which election, but that actually did happen once in our history, when the losing Party’s candidate died before the EC election. Since the winning Party had enough electoral votes to win – it didn’t matter anyway – but the losing Party was in complete disarray over what to do with their votes. I don’t remember who they cast their EC votes for, but they surely weren’t all for their VP candidate. Later, if I recall, each Party has since then come up with some kind of plan should such a thing come up again as now might very well happen…. probably due to Leo Donofrio’s case. But trust me, there are VIPs inside the DNC who KNOW this and have KNOWN this for quite some time. Remember all the finger-wagging and hand-wringing about superdelegates of the DNC being “pledged” to Hillary instead of Obama? There’s reason for that. Please hold that thought…

    Bill Clinton knows where that Indonesian passport is or is not. He also knows if Barry registered or was required to register for the draft. Remember all the hubris about Bill Clinton’s draft dodging and Selective Service shenanigans? Trust me, Bill knows about Obama. Bill also knows if Barry registered as a foreign student in college. He knows. And I guarantee you that Bill Clinton still has contacts in the Hawaiian state government who have seen the “vault” bc.

    And yet it might not matter anyway…

    On the other hand, if any of the cases working their way to the SCOTUS, or are now before it, and should they rule in any way that Sen Obama is somehow ineligible or has committed fraud (also an option) then the DNC may allow its electors to vote for the candidate who had THE NEXT MOST VOTES during the primaries – and that would be Hillary, not Biden – or they could just give their votes to Biden, BUT, he would then be free to choose a VP. Take a wild guess whom? ;) reeko

    PS: take a quick google at TX Governors “Ma and Pa Ferguson” just for funsies…

  99. My brother has insisted that McCain is a natural born citizen & sent me this link about a recent lawsuit in CA:

    Robinson v Debra Bowen SOS, et al
    http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2008cv03836/206145/39/

    This case was dismissed, but the judge’s opinion is disturbing to me.

    It is stated that McCain is a natural born citizen based on 8 US 1403.

    Which — 8 US 1403 — states:

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001403—-000-.html

    1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

    (a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a [b]citizen of the United States[/b].

    (b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a [b]citizen of the United States[/b].

    HOW can a judge misinterpret this????? And, GET AWAY WITH IT????

  100. student of history Says:

    Thanks to everyone who is standing up for our Constitution.

    Hope it’s just a coincidence that Obama’s buddy Chavez has invited the Russian navy to position a few ships just south of the USA while our political future is up for grabs.

  101. I told a friend of mine that a sign of how serious all of these cases are being taken by the Dems would depend how soon Hillary waits to resign from the Senate to be secretary of State. Well, the rumor now is that she will NOT resign until she is confirmed. It looks to me like she knows something may happen. It’s shame though because I was hoping she would resign and we could get rid of her Obama and Biden all at once. Sigh!

    On another note, if the supreme court does rule against Obama be prepared to see a fight. Everything he has done to date has come from the Socialist rule book. He’s enthralled the masses and gotten their blind support. Even now he is going around giving the air of already being President to keep that support. The ferocity of his whole campaign makes sense now. He knows the question of his birth is coming up and he plans to fight it. He’ll try to either Ignore the constitution and say that the people have vetted him and that THEY have ruled that he was eligible. Or he will push to change the Constitution. Either way we need to be prepared for this and not give up until he foes home to Chicago in disgrace. Finally we know what Biden meant about Obama being tested.

  102. Leo,

    If you read this, I’ll try to pass it on to several locations…How about Barack’s campaign soliciting funds from Kenya, what’s up with this!?

    http://blog.jaluo.com/?p=1233

  103. Leo di Congradulations e Cort!!!!
    I have been following your case from the beginning and you have done a wonderful job with your continued dedication. I have learned so much and filled my files with much research that I will pass on to my friends and family….~GOD BLESS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES ~
    Maggio dio la benedice entrambi su quest’esaurire ed il viaggio meraviglioso
    ..(may god bless you both on this exhausting and wonderful journey)
    Il suo amico, RINGRAZIARLA thank you from TEXAS !!!!

  104. thetownecrier Says:

    Keep up the brilliant and hard work! America’s patriots are behind you all the way!

  105. cautiouslyhopeful Says:

    How refreshing to read intelligent comments that contain complete thoughts, coherent language and correct spelling. My thanks to you all for reaffirming my faith in the intelligence of our citizens.

    Leo, there are no words to thank you enough for what you are doing. If you succeed, you will surely go down in history as the man who saved our country from being hijacked by the very people who proclaim to hate it. Thanks, too, to every one of you who are standing behind Leo. I wish I could be in DC on Friday to be part of the rally – it will be awesome. I hope someone takes some video to post on the internet.

    I have one question: There was some question about McCain’s birth place, and he was asked to show his birth certificate – which he promptly did. I understand his eligibility was discussed at some length by some authority, but I’ve forgotten where I read that. My question is who asked to see his birth certificate, who discussed it, and who deemed it acceptable? Why didn’t these same people question Obama’s birth origin? It would be helpful to ask them if anyone knows who they are. It would also be helpful to immediately relieve them of their present position.

    Obama is supposed to be a Constitutional scholar. Is he snubbing the Constitution (and all American citizens) or is he just ignorant of what it says? I cannot think of any other reason for his actions. Leo, when this is all over I hope your next crusade will be to take on the public schools. It is time someone with some clout invaded the entire school system and demand they teach the Constitution. If that had been happening for the past 30 years we would not be in the middle of this conflict now.

    Again Leo – thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have been very depressed since the election, and you have lifted my spirits and those of thousands of other people. Mega kudos, and I wish you every success Friday. If the SC decides in Obama’s favor, they can pack their stuff in boxes and go home – they will have rendered themselves useless and irrelevant along with the Constitution. The democrats will hack and slash it beyond recognition, and the results will be chilling.

    One more question – where is kaiopolia? I googled it and came up empty.

    Also Leo, Google has done the same thing to other conservative sites.

  106. Lederhosen Says:

    Lieber Leo,
    Sie sind unser Held (You are our hero)! Contrary to what the MSM would have you believe, there are many here in Germany (not just us expats) who support you and wish you strength and courage.

  107. Leo,
    My best guess is that this issue will not be successful because the votes have already been cast. This in effect would deny the “will of the people” and effectively strip 66 million people of their rights as citizens of the United States. Had this issue been before the Courts during the Primaries, it would have had more probability of success; however, the issue now of votes having been cast, and an election decided, for all intents and purposes may not allow the Supreme Court to rule effectively on this matter as you might hope. In fact, the Supreme Court may not take this case because they are not an activist court, and may not overthrow the decision of the electorate, even if the electorate have been misinformed.

    The free press for all intents and purposes did relay to the population that Obama’s father was from Kenya, and that his mother was an American. It is not for the Supreme Court to decide after the fact what does or does not effectively make a candidate eligible. Those types of vetting should exist with the Parties, the States, the SOS and the Press. To place this case in the Supreme Court, shows, that there is a serious breach within the system itself of guaranteeing that the population is clearly apprised of the issues regarding the election of a President. However the Supreme Court cannot rule or alter a decision made by millions because they were ignorant of the Constitution.

    On the other hand..

    What they might be able to rule on, is that Obama himself, was not ignorant of the Constitution and chose to ignore what it said. I don’t know what you call this. But if he will ignore this about the Constitution what else will he ignore? To me, this must have some legal bearing on the issue. In Fact, Leo, I think this is the crux of it. Obama or McCain could not swear to uphold a document, that both of them have already ignored.
    We already know in both cases they are not Natural Born, why are we arguing this? Because we need to have a ruling on it? What about a ruling on a person who ignores the Constitution and runs for President?
    Who knowingly undermines the document he/she is sworn to uphold..
    This person, is the one who has no “standing” not the person who challenges his/her eligibility. In fact the courts have not had it presented to them in this way, have they? I think not. And this is why the courts have ruled against Berg. It is not for Berg to challenge Obama’s qualifications, it is for Berg, to present what he knows, and say, then to the Court that Obama does not have “standing’ . In your case, you know already that Obama is a Dual Citizen, and not natural born, It is not for
    you to prove that he isn’t qualified, it is for him to defend his decision to seek the office, KNOWING he was ineligible. I have heard a few people mention the Alinsky tactics being utilized. Well, Leo, Alinsky tactics
    have one glaring weakness here. The weakness is that the Constitution cannot be ratified by ONE MAN.. Cannot be Altered because of the will
    of ONE MAN. And an election does not allow, the decision of ONE MAN,
    who knowingly breached his trust, to ultimately have his OWN way…
    no matter who voted for him. Period.

    So you have two arguments. I am not a lawyer, but I believe that what Obama did, was in effect to challenge the Constitution, utilize his followers to secure the Presidency. and dare the establishment to do anything about it. I believe, he will prevail, because, the arguments being made, are not the right ones..

    The right argument is can a candidate for President, knowingly and willfully disregard, the Constitution, and still uphold it.

    i think the answer is no, don’t you?

  108. arlene oklahoma Says:

    I sent my letters to Supreme Ct. Justices via express overnight mail yeserday morning & also thru WDN website for fedx. I didnt want to take any chances. BTW, saw a posting of a news reporter that death handling of Obama white grandma Toot, cant be found He talked to all hospitals, cororners, cemetaries in HI. And all denied handling dead body. So Im wondering if Obama is lying about his white grandma being dead. This Obama must one dangerous dude. This man really scares me.

  109. SMF’s entry: “Then, mention Obama’s compaigning for Odinga in Kenya (on YouTube) to show an example of split loyalty that can be caused by having a Foreign National Parent. Split loyalty is what our framers wanted to avoid in the Presidency.”

    I agree that this should be a part of your presentation because it demonstrates that Obama has already participated in actions of split loyalty. He did this in 2006 at U. S. taxpayer expense.

    Good point, SMF.

  110. The 11/29/08 entry on the below link explains this case very well.

    Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325, 327 (1939).

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

  111. Thank you Leo, for being a true patriot.

    2008, The Year “WE THE PEOPLE STOOD UP”,and Demanded Justice.

  112. Leo,

    Please check this out:

    http://www.yourfellowcitizen.com/

    “Alabama seems to have the most clear-cut requirements for placing a name on the ballot that I’ve seen. I wrote a particularly pointed letter to the Honorable Jean Brown, Chief Legal Council at the Alabama Secretary of State’s office…”

    We’re with you, Leo…

  113. Leo you are doing whats right at the right time and place in history. Doing whats right IS God’s WILL. I heard you say the other night that you are a Christian, believe that God will lead you and give you strength.

    If the only thing I can do is to pray, brother that’s what I will do.

    My prayer: Lord God please give Leo and the ones with him the courage, protection and strength to see this to the end. I pray that the Justices will stay with the law that was intended to be followed. In Jesus name AMEN

    Note: tape record everything said with the clerk.

  114. Dave Hoffman Says:

    Souds to me that “Scottworkman” should be at work, or at least watching Oprah! Leave the Constitution to those who know it’s meaning. Or at least those who are willing to fight for it’s existence!
    Thank you Leo, you have at least 48% of America behind you!
    God bless OUR cause!! Dave H

  115. Dave Hoffman Says:

    Sorry for the typo, I meant Sounds to me….

  116. Even if somehow the Supreme Court decided that Obama cannot become president (and there is 0% chance that will happen), we’ll end up with President Biden. Please tell me that you don’t actually believe that McCain would be permitted to step in. Or even more hilarious – Ron Paul. LOL

    Even if it turned out that it could be proven that Obama isn’t a “natural born” citizen the Supreme Court almost certainly would do nothing, simply because the question is now moot. He is now the president-elect. It is too late to unscramble the omelet. Many issues under the constitution must be resolved in a timely manner or else the opportunity for recourse is lost forever.

    The Supreme Court has ALWAYS – ALWAYS – refused to decide a case in a way that would cause a major upheaval. It is called the “political question” doctrine – the Supreme Court can simply punt. Refusing to allow a popular president-elect to take office just a few weeks before taking office, in a time of major crisis, is simply impossible.

    Obama’s birth certificate has been certified as legit. The Supreme Court does not examine evidence. They would never even see the birth certificate. The claims that the Supreme Court required Obama to produce one for the Supreme Court are outright lies.

    In every case, all the Supreme Court sees are the briefs by the parties (and amicus briefs etc in some cases). It never sees any evidence of any kind – no witnesses, no documents, no photos – and no birth certificates. Ever.

    This is 100% constitutional and is the way it has worked since the 1700s. If you insist that this is all BS then YOU are the one(s) who want to violate the Constitution.

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  118. Whether you voted for obama, McCain or the dog for president, people do not understand the consquences, if there is proof that obama is not a natural born citizen or that there is something else wrong with the birth certificates.

    Do they realize that this should be straightened out now, before he is sworn in. Because, every single solitary decision, law he signs or declaration he makes will be null and void.

    And what kind of mess is that going to cause. For one I believe that there has to be something hinky or he would release his certificate. Why in the world would he hide it. Just someone answer that.

  119. Thank you Lord for giving us Leo.
    You are a true Patriot and your message is resonating across our Country.
    My only concern is where SCOTUS is located because as you know, it is required that you enter inside the Washington beltway without your spine. We’ve seen this with most every politician we’ve put there. Having little to no faith left in our once proud Republic, I see this action as valiant, Patriotic and hopeless. Will stay in the prayer mode until we get resolution.

    By no means would I want you to stop. We The People HAVE to fight for right. There is no choice. We live free or die!

    Parties will begin when the truth is known, for as everyone should realize,
    “The truth shall set you free”.

  120. Susan said “The Supreme Court does not examine evidence.”

    I’m not sure the rule you mention is hard and fast. There are circumstances, I believe, that would justify a situation in which SCOTUS will decide it needs to find facts on its own.

    For example, since Mr. Donofrio’s case cannot be conclusively decided on the merits in any court unless and until a definition is determined for the constitutional term “natural born citizen”, SCOTUS may elect to supply such a definition now, while the case is before it, and while there is still time between now and December 15th. While SCOTUS could render a largely procedural decision that returns the case to New Jersey for further adjudication, I think this is unlikely. To do so is to take the distinct risk that the constitutinal question at issue will become moot before SCOUTS will have a chance to review any subsequent decisions. Or if mootness is not at issue, SCOTUS may find itself in a position of having to rendering a decision that potentially disqualifies Obama as an actual president-elect (i.e., after the electoral college has held its vote, and/or after the electoral college votes have been counted in the Senate), or, worse yet, that will result in the removal of Obama from office as a sitting POTUS.

    Remember also that this case is on appeal from the highest court of a U.S. state, as opposed to the Court of Appeals of the Third Federal Circuit, or a Federal District Court of the District of New Jersey. If I am wrong on this, I’d love to hear why, but my sense is that SCOTUS is not in a position to dictate terms in terms of directly controlling subsequent activity in this case such as further fact finding or the timing of related decisions. Because SCOTUS will need to “play ball” with the courts of New Jersey, it may be inclined to take decisive action sooner, rather than later. As you have indicated, this is likely to require some fact-finding, at least, if for no other reason than to ensure that SCOTUS does not find itself in the position of having rendered a decision based on facts that later turn out to be “inoperative”. For example, SCOTUS is not likely to accept anything short of conclusive proof that Obama was physically born in Hawaii before it will go to the trouble of basing a decision on such a fact in a case of first impression.

  121. Publius:

    First of all, you are forgetting that Obama HAS produced proof that he was born in Hawaii – his valid, authenticated birth certificate. I realize that you do not understand how evidence works, or that courts deal with LEGAL FACT and not ultimate “truth”. By producing a birth certificate that has been certified as valid, he has established that he was born in the US as a legal fact.

    No party is ever forced to prove anything to a mathematical or absolute certainty. It should be obvious that absolutely nothing can be “proven” to an absolute certainty.

    The Supreme Court cannot – ever – make findings of fact on its own. It does not and never has inspected evidence, including documents, to determine if they are authentic. That is the job of the trial courts. Appellate courts review findings of LAW only.

    What do you think is going to happen – Scalia will hold the birth certificate up to a light and say “nope, this thing is a fake”? The law does not work like that – period.

    Really – isn’t this all a little silly? Do you really want President Biden that badly? LOL

  122. naturalborncitizen Says:

    Obama is not the President-Elect for Constitutional purposes. He is the winner of the popular vote, but he can only become the President-Elect after the Electoral College meeting. Read the Constitution. At that time, the issue becomes one for Congress and any law suits filed after that date will have political question issues. But as of right now, Obama is simply a candidate, not the actual President-elect. Although he’s been routinely called that, the Constitution makes it clear that the President-Elect can not even exist until after the Electoral College Meeting.

    This is another big misconception. And it’s not even disputable since the Constitution doesn’t recognize the popular vote anywhere in its body.

  123. MourningMonk Says:

    FOR ALL OF YOU commentors who are obsessed with McCain’s birth location, please be advised: the issue IS moot. HE LOST the election!!!!!! So please concentrate on the US Constitution vs. the legal matter currently in dispute.

  124. MourningMonk Says:

    Song: NOOOOOOOOOOO! What Obama did was possibly perpetrate a fraud on the American people. He insisted, thus, presented a fictitious “birth certificate” (per particular experts) in an endeavor to feign his probable /possible lack of citizenship. “We The People” deserve an answer.

    I am the daughter, sister, and wife of those who served. The men in my family represented three (Navy, Air Force, Army) branches of the armed services. If we (my family) do not have “standing” to ask the question…………thence WHO in the heck DOES??????????

    All I want to know IS………..is the Senator from Illinois a Citizen of the United States. Does his status comply with the US Constitutiion. I feel that I HAVE “STANDING” to ask this v-e-r-y simple question.

    Good grief…….when I enrolled my son in kindergarten, I was required to provide his “birth certificate”. Was my son’s (@ 5 years-old) security risk more provocative than a person applying to be “POTUS”??????? Get a grip people and INSIST that this issue be permanently vs. expeditiously put to rest in an forthright vs. credible manner.

  125. [...] popcorn and Budweiser beer By patricksperry The Supremo’s have decided to take a look at Obama, and his constitutional qualifications as regards becoming the President of the United States. [...]

  126. MourningMonk Says:

    Susan: Your statement “The Supreme Court has ALWAYS – ALWAYS – refused to decide a case in a way that would cause a major upheaval. It is called the “political question” doctrine – the Supreme Court can simply punt. “………is curious. Name one case, when it came to complying with the US Constitution, where the Supreme Court punted.

    Currently, I absolutely need (NEED) to believe in the “US Constitution”, as well as, JUSTICE. If you are correct in your assessment of the Supremes, thence, our once regarded, wonderful country is nothing more than a deceptive facade unrepresentative of my family’s multiple-decades, unrealistic illusion . Accordinly, at this juncture of my life cycle, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE thaT the SCOTUS will ignore the magnitude of our US Constitution and just, as you put it, “PUNT”.

  127. Hey Susan. Time for a reality check . . . . the determination of the Constitutional requirements to be POTUS IS, most definitely, a constitutional question. No politics involved AT ALL. The ONLY question is – has Senator Obama met the Constitutional requirements to hold the office of POTUS? I do not believe for a single minute that if the US Supreme Court disqualifies Mr. Obama from holding the office of POTUS that the electorate will elect Mr. McCain as the winner. Heck I am not even sure if the new president elect would be Mr. Biden, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Paul, or you. All I want to know is – does Mr. Obama meet the Constitutional requirements to be our POTUS.

    This may require the Supreme Court to determine what constitutes a “natural born citizen.” It may also require them to determine who is responsible for determining this, and if no procedures are in place, the court can certainly come up with a list of procedures that it would deem satisfactory for establishment as a natural born U.S. citizen – there have been plenty of instances where the courts have established a check-list of facts/questions that will resolve an otherwise potentially ambiguous law or statute.

    Those of you who want to make this a political argument should take it to another forum/blog. That is not what we are discussing here.

  128. cautiouslyhopeful Says:

    maxie911 – Dummy me – I can’t seem to find even a remote connection between your blog and politics, the election, Barak Obama, birth certificates, or anything else discussed on this site? Would you please clarify the connection and how to find it on your blog. Thanks, maxine. We all love animals but we don’t take them to church or into political discussions ’cause they don’t understand, nor do they care, what’s going on.

  129. MourningMonk Says:

    Thank you, Bobert, I truly needed a rational view as to this Constitutional issue.

  130. Just would like to ask about what everyone thinks about Pres. Bush bringing home 20,000 troops so suddenly? I know someone that wasn’t scheduled to come home until June or July next yr. He says that he will arrive home on Friday with a whole batallion of troops. They will be dispursed throughout the nation to help with peace keeping. That to me means: 1) Are we fixing to be looking at MOB RULE for when this finally hits the MSM? 2) or are they just planning on an extra boustrous celebration for the swearing in ceremony?
    Either way, I am ready. I keep praying for our nation. I am also praying for our Cheif Justices to have open minds and hearts to receive the TRUTH! and then act upon it rationally but firmly question. Long live our Constitution!!! One Nation UNDER GOD!!!
    IVR

  131. I gotta say, I don’t get this at all. All you are doing is pushing a huge waste of taxpayer money. The reason this isn’t getting the attention it deserves in the press is because it doesn’t actually deserve attention.

    He had disclosed his birth certificate. It’s been certified by the state of Hawaii and reconfirmed by the state Government there. Can anyone show any evidence of a massive 50+ year conspiracy and coverup involving the birth details of one individual? And by evidence, I mean some actual tangible proof?

    Please enlighten us if you can.

  132. SUSAN AND BOBERT,
    Both of you need to take a government lesson. Obama hasn’t been elected yet! If and when the electoral college votes, then we will know who the POTUS is. If the OHB is disqualified before their vote,then it would go to McCain, if he is qualified. If they do vote for OHB then after that if he is disqualified, Biden falls next in line.

  133. goneshiny Says:

    Put more briefly; what will you do once this runs its course and nothing happens?

    http://www.gonzogeek.com

  134. Leo — I am listening to the 11-27 interview between Ed & Cort:

    http://www.plainsradio.com/show/Voice%2011-27-08.mp3

    Ed is asking Cort what Danny Bickel’s motivation is — well –

    Lan Lamphere (which I know you two had a falling out) called the SCOTUS & spoke to Danny Bickel. Lan said on his show that he asked Danny directly if he voted for Obama — and the answer is — YES!

  135. OOOPS! I’m sorry — it is Joe Thunder & Cort in the archived audio, from above. Today is just the 2nd day I’ve been listening to PlainsRadio. I can see I’ve missed a lot.

  136. You lose.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

    You just going to have to get used to saying President Obama.

  137. [...] SCOTUS UPDATES for Dec 2, 2008: CORT WROTNOWSKI HAND DELIVERS EMERGENCY APPLICATION – DONOFRIO LETT… [UPDATE 3:12 pm] Cort’s Docket now shows that the renewed application to Justice Scalia is dated Nov. 29.  [...] [...]

  138. cautiouslyhopeful Says:

    Susan – I must take issue with the points you presented in your posts. “First of all” – as you put it – Obama has NOT produced proof that he was born in Hawaii. His valid, authenticated birth certificate remains hidden from the world, and only Hawaii Department of Health officials have access to it. That is exactly the point – he won’t show a valid birth certificate. It is demanded he meet the requirements put forth in the Constitution and he has not done so – the burden of proof is on him and him alone. Perhaps you can tell us why he has kept his past so well hidden.

    Perhaps it would be to your advantage to understand the difference between a Certificate of Birth (proving only that he was born – no dispute there) and a Birth Certificate (proving WHERE he was born – big dispute here). The Constitution is very clear on this subject, and Obama is trying to circumvent it.

    No, Scalia will not (as you say) “hold the birth certificate up to a light and say nope, this thing is a fake” because he doesn’t have one. The whole point is to force Obama to produce a valid, certified Birth Certificate as required by the Constitution – which he has not done. The Certificate of Birth which Obama has produced has been proven to be a forgery. That has not been proven – as you say – “to a mathematical or absolute certainty,” but it has been proven beyond a shadow of doubt which is enough to satisfy the law. Even if it is valid, it is not enough to meet the requirements. It isn’t even signed. Would you accept a check that isn’t signed? Or a contract? How about an unsigned Certificate of Authenticity (which a Certificate of Birth is) for gold or an expensive piece of art?

    Why is the “question now moot” just because he is called the president-elect which, by the way, he won’t be until the Electoral College says he is. Why is it impossible to forbid anyone to take office when they are proven to be a fraud or that they have committed perjury? What if he dropped dead tomorrow – would he still take office? What if he ran through the mall shooting everyone in sight – would he still take office? No, Susan, it is not impossible at all to disallow him to assume the presidency. What is impossible is the thought of allowing an illegal president and the residual effects thereof. The repercussions would be endless and create a nightmare that would never end. True, the omelet cannot be unscrambled, but if it is found to be tainted it can be thrown out and a new one can be made to take its place. It isn’t too late. It would be much easier to resolve this now rather than wait until he has appointed cabinet members and they have made decisions, or he has signed treaties, laws, and made decisions, all which would have to be undone. Or until he is blackmailed – very possible. Or until he has made null and void other parts of the Constitution – who would stop him? Various people have been trying to resolve this issue for months but the courts, being apparently very pro-Obama, have drug their feet on the matter and prevented it from going forward.

    Yes, sad to say, we could end up with a president Biden. That could happen, but maybe not since there are other paths that could be followed. But at least a president Biden would be legitimate. You mentioned Ron Paul – apparently your lack of information is exceeded only by your imagination.

    It would serve you well to also read up on the political question. This is a matter of the constitution and not a dispute between the other branches of the government. The Supreme Court legalized abortion, and it is common knowledge that somewhere around 80% of the people do not approve. That decision has so far resulted in the death of over 50 million innocent babies plus a lot of their mothers. Talk about upheaval. When the Supreme Court voted in favor of Bush in 2000 the democrats thought they had been “up heaved” to the max. But the country has survived both of these decisions and, considering less than 25% of the population (22.62%) voted for Obama, I’m willing to bet we would survive the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the Constitution (and against Obama) as well. As proven in the past, we are a pretty resilient nation.

    The people who have posted on this site have given us many links to follow as will a simple internet search. I hope you will let go of your obsession with Obama and replace it with an obsession for truth and fact, then find time to read at least some of the information presented. You could also Google “Obama birth certificate” and find endless information. After you have familiarized yourself with the true facts, please post again and tell us you finally understand what we are talking about and how much danger our country is in.

  139. cautiouslyhopeful …YOU ROCK!!! Well said.

  140. I have a question regarding MSM lack of coverage on the question of ” is Obama Constitutionally qualilfied to be the President”. Obviously the liberal left media wants to avoid any acknowledgement of our Constitution as they have been trying to erase it for years. It amazed me to hear the acknowlegement on Fox news that a Supreme Court conference considering this question will occur on Friday. Is it possible that Fox wants to hancle this very carefully until after the Supreme Court rules, so that no one can say the media has tainted the case? The news floodgates may open up if the electoral votes are stopped and/or Obama does not assume the President Elect position. I realize there could be many other reasons such as intimidation or disdain for the case, but perhaps it is something that Judge Napolitano has cautioned the Fox news channel about. Just a thought. Thanks. (My prayers continue in support of Leo, Cort and for the Supreme Court justices to fully support our constitution and its power)

  141. Jeff Mach Says:

    Leo & Cort,

    I can’t express myself enough how lucky America is to have you. What the courts have done to both of you is a complete misconduct of justice and I can hear in the true Americans now the fight is on. We all must stand strong together until justice has be served.

    I had a couple of good link to put up but it is amazing how quickly they get taken down!!!! This s#%t must stop and we need to take our counry back.

    jm

  142. If only we would have a “radical” edge and picket and protest at the Supreme court. I would if I lived nearby (I live in Texas.) A huge protest would perhaps grab attention from the Supremes and also local and national media. There are times I wish we would be more outwardly belligerant… Oh well :(

    Thank you Leo and Cort, you are doing a great job! Let’s hope the Court does theirs.

    JM

  143. goneshiny Says:

    I’m sure they will.

  144. Even a Kenyan birth doesn’t matter because the 1952
    technicality everyone points to in 8 USC 1401
    (about the mother needing to be age 19) can quickly
    be made retroactive to Obama’s birth by Congress.

    As well, there has *already* been a U.S. President
    with dual citizenship at birth, Chester A. Arthur! See:

    http://volokh.com/posts/1228153366.shtml#494147

  145. Is there any news on Wrotnowski’s papers that were sent to Scalia?

    Sure is hard to wait. :) I guess I am not very patient. Must be even harder for Cort and Leo.

  146. December 5, 2008

    KMOV-TV in St. Louis aired a short report on the Donofrio case. I managed to get a crude video of the report on my point-and-shoot camera, but I don’t have the capability of editing that video. The official video of the report likely will not be released online, but watch the following site: http://www.kmov.com

  147. Silly me!

    Mac to the rescue (I forgot that I had Quicktime Pro on the Mac, and that it CAN edit the file. D’uh!). The file is at http://billsey-christian.net/temp/KMOV-ObamaLawsuitReport.mp4

  148. cautiouslyhopeful Says:

    AGGGGGGG! I’m going bonkers. It’s already 6:30 here in Oregon, and still no word about today’s SC decision. I’ve searched everywhere – nothing. Maybe it’s too soon to expect a decision – does anyone know how long it might be until we hear?

    Keep praying. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet, but I’m afraid she is warming up.

    How did the gathering in front of the SC go today? I’m jealous of all you who live on “that side” of the country – wish I could have been there.

  149. cautiouslyhopeful Says:

    WorldNetDaily just updated its site and now has an article about the rally. Kudos to the people that were there – few in body but many in spirit. WND also has a new article – “Will Supremes Review Citizenship Arguments” and it contains a link to YouTube. These are must-see videos. How anyone could be for Obama after seeing only a few of these is beyond me.

    Apparently the SC takes its time to make/announce a decision. No hurry – there are still nine days left before the EC meets. Sure wish these things would move along a little faster.

  150. WeThePeopleFoundation.org is a scam.

    If you visit their home page, you will see an enlarged section from a 1963 Hawaiian birth certificate box 7c with the caption “Foreign Country” which they claim proves that Hawaii allowed foreign-born persons to register on the Live Birth form. The fraud is that blocks 7a-7g are the MOTHER’S RESIDENCE, not the place of birth, which is in block 6a and has nothing about “Foreign Country”. It’s a total scam which they hope nobody will notice since the full certificate showing the context is too blurry to read.

  151. Makes me wonder about Barack Obama’s character.

    He knows about these lawsuits yet prefers to fight them instead of offering a full disclosure and starting his presidency on the right foot.

    He knows about the country’s questioning his eligibility yet chooses to do nothing to clear the air and erase all doubt.

  152. goneshiny Says:

    I must have missed the part where Obama is fighting them. It seems more like he shares the view held by most that there’s nothing to them and they’ll eventually just go away.

    http://www.gonzogeek.com

  153. I want to thank everyone for eveything that they are doing!!I pray everyday to the Lord that Obama is found out that he’ a fraud!@I truly believe that he is not for us or our country.Too many bad friends,that really scares me and for our children!God Bless you all and I will keep you in my prayers everyday!!Thank you over and over again!!

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